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Italien, Ende des 15. Jahrhunderts: Das Zeitalter von Da Vinci und Michelangelo galt als eine Zeit der Erleuchtung und geistiger Weiterbildung. Im Zentrum der Weltordnung thronte der skrupellose und machtbesessene Rodrigo Borgia, dessen Regiment als Papst in die Geschichte der katholischen Kirche eingehen sollte.

Teil 1: "Aufstieg des Papstes" (Episoden 1 - 4)
Italien, Ende des 15. Jahrhunderts: Es war das Zeitalter von Da Vinci und Michelangelo – eine Zeit der Erleuchtung, unbändiger Kreativität und beispielloser geistiger Weiterbildung. Im Zentrum der Weltordnung thronte ein Mann, dessen Name zum Synonym für Skrupellosigkeit und Machtgier wurde. Seine Regiment als Papst Alexander VI. ging als das denkwürdigste Kapitel in die Geschichte der katholischen Kirche ein – RODRIGO BORGIA.

Disc 1:
01 1492
02 Hitzewelle

Disc 2:
03 Ein heiliger Schwur
04 Die Weisheit des Heiligen Geistes

Teil 2: "Vorboten der Apokalypse" (Episoden 5 - 8)
Italien, Ende des 15. Jahrhunderts: Es war das Zeitalter von Da Vinci und Michelangelo – eine Zeit der Erleuchtung, unbändiger Kreativität und beispielloser geistiger Weiterbildung. Im Zentrum der Weltordnung thronte ein Mann, dessen Name zum Synonym für Skrupellosigkeit und Machtgier wurde. Seine Regiment als Papst Alexander VI. ging als das denkwürdigste Kapitel in die Geschichte der katholischen Kirche ein – RODRIGO BORGIA.

Disc 3:
05 Der Bund der Ehe
06 Rechtmäßigkeit

Disc 4:
07 Schachzüge
08 Vorboten der Apokalypse

Teil 3: "Blutgericht" (Episoden 9 - 12)
Italien, Ende des 15. Jahrhunderts: Es war das Zeitalter von Da Vinci und Michelangelo – eine Zeit der Erleuchtung, unbändiger Kreativität und beispielloser geistiger Weiterbildung. Im Zentrum der Weltordnung thronte ein Mann, dessen Name zum Synonym für Skrupellosigkeit und Machtgier wurde. Seine Regiment als Papst Alexander VI. ging als das denkwürdigste Kapitel in die Geschichte der katholischen Kirche ein – RODRIGO BORGIA.

Disc 5:
09 Die Invasion Roms
10 Wunder

Disc 6:
11 Gottes Ungeheuer
12 Die Schlange erhebt sich

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Canal+ "Borgias" vs. Showtime's "The Borgias". 14 de enero de 2012
Por Miim - Publicado en Amazon.com
Formato: DVD
As you must already know, there's two shows about the Borgia family currently running. One from Showtime, and this one here done by Canal +, an European TV channel. Ironically, both were filmed in the same country at the same time, but are completely independent productions.

People inevitably compare them both, and many often mistakenly claim the Canal + one is historically more accurate than the Showtime one, something that isn't true.

As a history aficionado focusing on the Renaissance era and the Borgias in particular, I can assure you that when it comes to historical accuracy the Canal + show is just as bad as the Showtime one.
Furthermore, the characterization isn't always credible in the Canal + version (and occasionally seems to change randomly and suddenly), while the Showtime version lacks in background details and in the people who should be surrounding the Borgias. So they each have their flaws.

Both of them have excellent points and are very entertaining as well though, even if every so often they both butcher the historical accuracy to quite amazing levels.

The Showtime version has a tendency to do shortcuts and to focus on character development (thus it succeeds in making you interested in the main characters), while the Canal + version tries to show more of the people surrounding them but fails to establish as good of a connection for the watchers, and also frequently veers off into bizarre tangents that are as bad or worse than the ones done by the Showtime version.
(A little list of some of the odd things in the Canal + version [SPOILER WARNING]: Cesare involved with witchcraft?? The whole sub-arc with Cesare trying to kill his baby?? The whole arc about Cesare getting raped and then having various post-traumatic reactions every time someone humiliates him by bringing that back up?? [end of spoilers.]
All of those are invented for the Canal + show and have no relation whatsoever with history, but the show also passes on rumors contemporary to the Borgias, that are known to be untrue and that the Showtime version did not pass on, thankfully. So claiming one is more historically accurate than the other is a moot point, imho. Both are flawed, and yet still very interesting and enjoyable.)

I personally prefer when historical series try to stay closer to actual history, but I realize that more often than not history is sacrificed for the sake of entertaining TV (it was so even with "Rome"), so I don't really blame either of the two shows for those inevitable peccadilloes.

In my opinion, both deserve a solid 4 stars. (I would give 5 for more historical accuracy, but the entertaining value of both is good enough to make it a 4 or even more despite the historical issues.)
Especially considering how we've gotten so much garbage fiction about the Borgias over the years; those two shows are surprisingly good compared so many of the past productions about them.

In conclusion, both are still extremely entertaining despite the issues with historical accuracy they both have. I strongly recommend watching them both if you're very interested in the period or in the Borgias.
76 de 85 personas piensan que la opinión es útil
Better than the other version, which I find hard to believe 13 de diciembre de 2011
Por Prof Wombat - Publicado en Amazon.com
Formato: DVD Compra verificada
I love Jeremy Irons. I would listen to him read the phone book. But this version of the Borgias story is quite compelling. It's written by the creative team behind The Wire" (Barry Levinson and Tom Fontana), and is a pan-European effort. It's available now on Netflix streaming.

This means that the costumes are stunning, the sets accurate, but the dialects a bit jarring, It's in english, but some actors have a German accent (Lucrezia), most are British, some are Italian (Giulia Farnese) and so on. The most jarring accent is from the American, John Dorman, who plays Pope Alexander VI. I took me several episodes to get over the fact that the nasty Police Colonel in "The Wire" was Rodrigo Borgia. But once you get over the accent thing, you realize that Rodrigo was a very virile, late-in-life man, and Dorman is actually a very good choice. Like "The Wire" the evil or criminal acts and personalities are presented "as-is" - there is no moralizing here - these are men of their own times.

I'd like to say this version is also more accurate, but what we know is from sources hostile to the Borgias, and accuracy is a nebulous goal. However, the degeneration of Rome at the time is well depicted, and the dresses are gorgeous! The actor who plays the king of France looks as though he stepped from a late medieval painting.

For lovers of period pieces such as myself, this is well worth the time. A real delight, and I'm grateful I didn't have to buy a region 2 DVD version of this!
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Even better than Showtime's version! 11 de mayo de 2012
Por Lyn Di Iorio - Publicado en Amazon.com
This version of the story of the Borgias is even more riveting and captivating than the Showtime version. At first I was put off by John Doman's American accent, which of course didn't fit the character of Rodrigo Borgia, a Catalan who spent much of his life in Italy. But the story line in this version, while completely fictionalized (just as Showtime's is), accurately depicted the tension between the desire to be faithful to God and to surrender to one's desires, which afflicts the entire Borgia family. I found the story of Cesare, and the character as played by Mark Ryder, to be particularly heart-stopping, as Cesare's desire to win Rodrigo's favor, and his constant rejection in favor of Juan, is a big part of this version! Overall, this is a wonderful and very dark version of the story of the Borgias, a real must watch for fans of stories about the Borgias and dark dramas! The acting, even Doman's, is quite excellent.
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Outstanding...I will "pray" for a second season. 2 de febrero de 2012
Por maskirovka - Publicado en Amazon.com
Formato: DVD
I enjoyed the Showtime series "the Borgias" enough to buy a copy of the season one DVD of that series, and I suppose I will watch season two of that show with interest.

However, I'm very glad to have stumbled across "Borgia: Faith and Fear." The storyline was much better and to say it was jam-packed with compelling and shocking moments (in contrast with the Showtime series) is an understatement:

1. John Doman as Alexander VI surpasses Jeremy Irons who comes across as too languid and "English" and laid back in comparison. Doman's Pope strikes me as a more authentic version of what Alexander VI might have been like...a complex mix of corruption, passion, political genius, moral blindness, and sometimes even piety.

2. The series spends much more time than the Showtime series on the conclave that put Rodrigo Borgia into the Papacy. Watching this political intrigue whirling at a dizzying pace is fascinating and compelling to watch.

3. The production values are great and are not outshone by the Showtime series. Battle scenes look real and the faux-Vatican created for the series looks real.

4. I have the impression that "Borgia: Faith and Fear" takes fewer liberties with the historical record than the Showtime series (although I did not a few such things).

I would recommend against letting young children watch the show. It is at times extremely violent (brutal torture, public executions) and it has explicit sex scenes (more so than the Showtime series) but with that said, it was not "gratuitous" (the story is set in a bloodsoaked time in a place swirling with vendetta, violence, lust, and all the other dark passions that move people).

I agree that sometimes the vast cast of characters does get confusing (telling who belongs to what factions. I'm looking for a good book about the Borgia clan, so I can better appreciate both series.
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Underrated masterpiece 12 de agosto de 2013
Por Natalie - Publicado en Amazon.com
Formato: DVD
This show took me completely by surprise, especially after reading a bunch of negative reviews here and in other places. Most of them, it seems, are written by people who saw one or two episodes and quickly dismissed it as a complete disaster and inferior to the other Borgia show produced by Neil Jordan for Showtime. Well, I'm happy to report, that my own opinion is quite different. The first episodes did take some getting used, particularly the mishmash of various accents, clunky exposition, overabundance of supporting characters and political details and an unexpected approach to character development of younger Borgias (particularly Cesare - he seems to be really polarizing for many viewers). Also, compared to the polished Showtime version, which I saw first, it seemed somewhat gloomy and even drab.

However, there was something that made me keep watching. Even though I was far from expert on the Borgias, I recognized it was much better researched than the Showtime version, both in terms of historical events and a look and feel of times. The political intrigues were actually quite interesting and I was also curious to see how they were going to do with Cesare - can this volatile teenager really transform into a credible prototype for Machiavelli's The Prince? Then, after the first 3 or 4 episodes I was suddenly hooked and tried to glom the rest of the series as fast as I possibly could in one sitting. It's a good thing both seasons are available on Netflix now! Although I admit, it wasn't until season 2 when I realized I was watching the best adult historical show since Rome, and possibly my favorite period drama ever (I think Mark Ryder's fantastic performance as a more mature Cesare Borgia in season 2 has something to with that, too). But I promise I'll try to contain this review to season 1 as much as I can.

Performances range from adequate to great (my favorites are Mark Ryder and Isolda Dychauk). Most people will probably recognize John Doman and Art Malik as well as guest actors from The Game of Thrones. The Borgia children and other youngsters are closer to the actual age of their characters in 1492, when Rodrigo was elected Pope. Isolda is more believable as a childlike Lucrezia, and Mark and Stanley Weber (Juan) as young adults. They grow together with their characters as the series progresses. They even resemble the portraits from the era quite a bit.

John Doman (Rodrigo) seems to be a deal breaker for many, especially his American accent. Which seems rather strange to me: why do we expect people in medieval Italy speak with posh British accent (which is not used by most Brits, by the way). In fact, the American accent even stresses Rodrigo's position as an outsider, a brash barbarian in the more refined culture. Doman might not be my first choice to play the Borgia patriarch but he does bring commanding presence expected of someone who's been a second man in the Vatican for several decades while patiently waiting for his own turn. I only wish the writers had given him more opportunities to display fatherly affection towards his children.

Mark Ryder is given the most challenging role in the series, and he's doing it amazingly well for such a young actor. In season one, Cesare is a very complex character confronted with many issues and goes from one extreme to another, torn between his own dreams of glory and a need to prove to his father than he's more worthy of his love than his brother Juan. He needs to learn to leash his aggression, pride and arrogance in a way that will help his ambitions rather than hinder them. I think it's rather bold on Tom Fontana's part to remind us that Cesare is still 18 when his father becomes Pope and not to make him a badass right away, but rather an impulsive young man with great potential who still has to find his way in life. Some might consider it's a weakness, but I believe it allows for far more interesting character development (especially since season 2 delivers in spades). We have to wait for Season 3 for the final verdict, but it's the best portrayal of a young man's rise to power I've seen on TV so far.

This show also features a surprising number of supporting roles, most of whom are based on actual historic personalities and have their own backstory (although they do play loose with some of them). All of them contribute to the story and look like real people with their own agendas rather than simply plot devices. There're even personas - like Spain's monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella and the German Emperor - that never actually show up on screen, but nevertheless influence the politics of Rome quite a bit.

I realize the main characters on the show might be hard to empathize with if you expect to find them to be likable in a traditional sense. While they're not the monsters from the Borgia legend (they do address some juicy gossip such as incest and poisonings), they're complex characters who fight their inner demons (Cesare is the most obvious example, but it's true to some extent with others). The writers are not afraid to give them unbecoming qualities such as petty jealousy or vanity or put them into embarrassing situations. And of course, most of them accept violence as a method to defend their honor or achieve their political goals far more readily than we do (true to the times, but might be off-putting to some viewers). In the end, I still ended up rooting for Cesare, Lucrezia, Rodrigo and, of course, Giulia's brother Alessandro Farnese who seems to be the only really decent person on the show.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying the show is entirely flawless. I think the first 3 or 4 episodes are really the weakest (they also have the largest amount of gratuitous nudity and violence), although I've come to appreciate them more now since they're actually doing a very good job of setting up the rest of the series. Some of the invented side stories are really over the top, some of the made-up conflicts are too soapy and some of the actors struggle with saying lines in English. I don't mind different accents at all, the only problem is, sometimes it's just hard to understand what they're saying (I had to turn on subtitles on a few occasions). I also wish they had a bigger budget for grander sets (not that they're not doing a great job with what they have). Finally, I think they should've allocated more time to develop Cesare and Lucrezia's relationship more naturally (I felt they threw it in at the last moment because it's what the audience expected). But overall, I firmly believe that the strengths outweigh the weaknesses by far.

So how does this version compare to Showtime? As someone who's seen two season of Borgia and all three of Showtime before actually checking out Camal+ version, I have a few things to say on the matter (but take it as a grain of salt as I'm squarely in Tom Fontana's camp).

I have to say, there're quite a few things to love about Neil Jordan's effort which I actually liked quite a bit. First of all, they do have a substantially bigger budget which allows for more sumptuous (but not particularly accurate) sets and visually stunning costumes. They also set up Cesare and Lucrezia's love story much better and the cast is generally more solid.

On the other hand, Borgia definitely wins in the character development and amount of historical research (I'm not going to say accuracy since they both take significant liberties with the private lives of the characters). Borgia's writers are much better of following the major historical events and showing the political and cultural background of the day (not without some simplification or dramatic license, of course). Despite some anachronisms, Fontana's Borgia actually feels like Renaissance Italy rather than a vaguely historic fantasyland where the characters appear to be too modern and do very little of what their prototypes actually did.

Canal+ version is definitely more challenging of the two and is not an easily digestible entertainment for the casual viewers. It requires at least some basic knowledge of the era, attention to detail, patience when it comes to characters' growth and willingness to look deeper where things are left open to interpretation.

Even though I enjoyed The Borgias when I first saw it I don't really feel like watching it again (ok, maybe only Cesare and Lucrezia scenes). However, I've already watched Borgia's two seasons three times and look forward to season three. Hopefully, unlike Showtime, Canal+ is going to allow for a proper ending to the series.

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